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    Betta enisae and Betta breviobesus

    I'd like to share my experience with Betta enisae and Betta breviobesus, two species of the pugnax complex.

    A pair of B. enisae was imported from Hermanus Haryanto in June 2015.
    A pair of B. breviobesus was imported from Hermanus Haryanto in October 2015. Unfortunately, I lost the female during the winter. A second pair was imported in April 2016.


    Betta enisae male

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    Male approximately 11-12 cms measure now.

    Betta enisae female


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    B_enisae_femelle.jpg

    Female approximately 10 cms measure now.



    Betta breviobesus male


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    The oldest male approximately 7-8 cm measure now, the youngest only 5 cm

    Betta breviobesus female

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    Female approximately 5 cms measure now but it did not reach its grown-up size.


    When I posted the photos of my enisae' pair on the French forum of the CIL-IBSC, the absence caudal transverse bars questioned, and it was said me that I did not have enisae but breviobesus. That's why I chose to import breviobesus a few months later.


    The tank of betta enisae
    Tank size : 80 x 45 x 25 cm
    Substrate : mud of catappa
    Live plants : Microsorium pteropus, anubia nana, Lemna minor, ceratopteris cornuta, ceratophyllum demersum and cabomba caroliniana.
    Equipment : heater (24░C) and sponge filter.
    Water parameters : I watch only the conductivity to maintain it between 100 and 150 ÁS.

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    It changed since this picture.

    The tank of betta breviobesus
    Tank size : 70 x 43 x 23 cm
    Substrate : mud of catappa
    Live plants : Microsorium pteropus, anubia nana and Lemna minor.
    Equipment : heater (24░C) and sponge filter.
    Water parameters : I watch only the conductivity to maintain it between 100 and 150 ÁS.


    Spawning


    My enisae' pair spawned from its arrival. They spawned three times in July and August, 2015 but no more since. The incubation lasted approximately 2 weeks.

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    My first pair of breviobesus did not spawn. On the other hand the second pair spawned from its arrival. At present both males are in incubation.

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    Some pictures of my youngster enisae

    One day old fry

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    Two weeks old fry

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    One month old fry

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    Three months old fry

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    Six months old fry

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    Eight months old fry

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    All my young males have a pattern in their caudal.

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    Ultima modifica di drygam; 28-04-2016 alle 09:36

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    Wow, a fantastic batch of young enisae.
    So you now have a trio of breviobesus (two males) and a big community of enisae who grew up very well.
    Ho did you feed the fries and juveniles?
    Matteo

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    Wow, a fantastic batch of young enisae.
    So you now have a trio of breviobesus (two males) and a big community of enisae who grew up very well.
    Ho did you feed the fries and juveniles?
    I do for the easiest.
    I feed the fries with brine shrimps nauplii.
    When they are enough big, I feed them with frozen brine shrimps then, a few weeks later, with frozen bloodworms.
    The young enisae eat also betta pro now but I think that they would eat all that they see.

    My first fry of breviobesus was born this night. I got back this first spawn to assure the continuation. The following ones will stay with the adults.

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    Ultima modifica di drygam; 28-04-2016 alle 14:31

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    They are a lot! Wonderful experience
    Matteo

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    Oh my!! great experience! Thanks for sharing that and those amazing photos!

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    Great topic!

    Thanks for sharing. I also have a pugnax complex tank with Betta schalleri.

    If you will come to Ranco this year i will be glad to give you some of my fishes
    I also keep an old female of Betta enisae, and it would be great to find her a partener

    With pugnax complex i think low conductivity (us) paramter is absolutely mandatory
    I also use chopped earthworms in order to feed them the best as i can, did you ever try them?

    How often you do water changes and in what measures?


    Thanks again for sharing your experience with us and congrats for your awesome photos
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    Great topic!

    Thanks for sharing. I also have a pugnax complex tank with Betta schalleri.

    If you will come to Ranco this year i will be glad to give you some of my fishes
    We discussed about the show at Ranco with the other breeders and the judges during the Swiss Betta Show. Unfortunately I could not release myself to make the journey with other French breeders. I am a teacher. Without being able to leave on Fridays, the journey is too long.
    Thanks a lot for the schalleri but I have no more too much place in my little "fishbox" : I have 25 young enisae who become too big for their growing tank and about forty young breviobesus (2 weeks old) to whom I have to find a place.
    My other tanks are for patoti and albimarginata, albimarginata is the species with which I began the wildtypes in 2011.

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    I also keep an old female of Betta enisae, and it would be great to find her a partener
    If you or others breeders are interested, I can ask my french friends if they can take bettas for me to Ranco. Please send me a pm.

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    With pugnax complex i think low conductivity (us) paramter is absolutely mandatory
    I also use chopped earthworms in order to feed them the best as i can, did you ever try them?
    No, I never try chopped earthworms but I would want to try other foods that bloodworms which they devour in large numbers.

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    How often you do water changes and in what measures?
    Geneally, I check the water every month with a conductimeter. The conductivity does not vary a lot in some of my tanks. In that of the breviobesus, I was only completing the evaporation since last September. On the other hand in the tank of the young enisae (65 liters for 25 youngs), I change a third part of the water every month with 100 % of reverse osmosis water (conductivity < 30 ÁS) to maintain the conductivity around 120 ÁS.


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    Thanks again for sharing your experience with us and congrats for your awesome photos
    It's my pleasure.

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