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Betta enisae and Betta breviobesus

Aperto da drygam, Aprile 28, 2016, 10:09:00 AM

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drygam

I'd like to share my experience with Betta enisae and Betta breviobesus, two species of the pugnax complex.

A pair of B. enisae was imported from Hermanus Haryanto in June 2015.
A pair of B. breviobesus  was imported from Hermanus Haryanto in October 2015. Unfortunately, I  lost the female during the winter. A second pair was imported in April  2016.


Betta enisae male

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Male approximately 11-12 cms measure now.

Betta enisae female


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Female approximately 10 cms measure now.



Betta breviobesus male


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The oldest male approximately 7-8 cm measure now, the youngest only 5 cm

Betta breviobesus female

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Female approximately 5 cms measure now but it did not reach its grown-up size.


When  I posted the photos of my enisae' pair on the French forum of the  CIL-IBSC, the absence caudal transverse bars questioned, and it was said  me that I did not have enisae but breviobesus. That's why I chose to import breviobesus a few months later.


The tank of betta enisae
Tank size : 80 x 45 x 25 cm
Substrate : mud of catappa
Live  plants : Microsorium pteropus, anubia nana, Lemna minor, ceratopteris  cornuta, ceratophyllum demersum and cabomba caroliniana.
Equipment : heater (24°C) and sponge filter.
Water parameters : I watch only the conductivity to maintain it between 100 and 150 µS.

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It changed since this picture.

The tank of betta breviobesus
Tank size : 70 x 43 x 23 cm
Substrate : mud of catappa
Live plants : Microsorium pteropus, anubia nana and Lemna minor.
Equipment : heater (24°C) and sponge filter.
Water parameters : I watch only the conductivity to maintain it between 100 and 150 µS.


Spawning


My enisae'  pair spawned from its arrival. They spawned three times in July and  August, 2015 but no more since. The incubation lasted approximately 2  weeks.

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My first pair of breviobesus did not spawn. On the other hand  the second pair spawned from its arrival. At present both males are in  incubation.

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Some pictures of my youngster enisae

One day old fry

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Two weeks old fry

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One month old fry

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Three months old fry

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Six months old fry

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Eight months old fry

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All my young males have a pattern in their caudal.

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gamgam

Wow, a fantastic batch of young enisae.
So you now have a trio of breviobesus (two males) and a big community of enisae who grew up very well.
Ho did you feed the fries and juveniles?
Matteo :cheer:

drygam

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Citazione di: gamgam;103109Wow, a fantastic batch of young enisae.
So you now have a trio of breviobesus (two males) and a big community of enisae who grew up very well.
Ho did you feed the fries and juveniles?
I do for the easiest.
I feed the fries with brine shrimps nauplii.
When they are enough big, I feed them with frozen brine shrimps then, a few weeks later, with frozen bloodworms.
The young enisae eat also betta pro now but I think that they would eat all that they see.

My first fry of breviobesus was born this night. I got back this first spawn to assure the continuation. The following ones will stay with the adults.

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gamgam

They are a lot! Wonderful experience  :)
Matteo :cheer:

Brendan

Oh my!! great experience! Thanks for sharing that and those amazing photos!

MarZissimo

Great topic!

Thanks for sharing. I also have a pugnax complex tank with Betta schalleri.

If you will come to Ranco this year i will be glad to give you some of my fishes :)
I also keep an old female of Betta enisae, and it would be great to find her a partener :)

With pugnax complex i think low conductivity (us) paramter is absolutely mandatory :)
I also use chopped earthworms in order to feed them the best as i can, did you ever try them?

How often you do water changes and in what measures?


Thanks again for sharing your experience with us and congrats for your awesome photos :)
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drygam

Citazione di: MarZissimo;103141Great topic!

Thanks for sharing. I also have a pugnax complex tank with Betta schalleri.

If you will come to Ranco this year i will be glad to give you some of my fishes :)
We  discussed about the show at Ranco with the other breeders and the  judges during the Swiss Betta Show. Unfortunately I could not release  myself to make the journey with other French breeders. I am a teacher.  Without being able to leave on Fridays, the journey is too long.
Thanks a lot for the schalleri but I have no more too much place in my little "fishbox" : I  have 25 young enisae who become too big for their growing tank and about forty young breviobesus (2 weeks old) to whom I  have to find a place.
My other tanks are for patoti and albimarginata, albimarginata is the species with which I began the wildtypes in 2011.

Citazione di: MarZissimo;103141I also keep an old female of Betta enisae, and it would be great to find her a partener :)
If  you or others breeders are interested, I can ask my french friends if  they can take bettas for me to Ranco. Please send me a pm.

Citazione di: MarZissimo;103141With pugnax complex i think low conductivity (us) paramter is absolutely mandatory :)
I also use chopped earthworms in order to feed them the best as i can, did you ever try them?
No, I never try chopped earthworms but I would want to try other foods that bloodworms which they devour in large numbers.

Citazione di: MarZissimo;103141How often you do water changes and in what measures?
Geneally,  I check the water every month with a conductimeter. The conductivity  does not vary a lot in some of my tanks. In that of the breviobesus, I  was only completing the evaporation since last September. On the other  hand in the tank of the young enisae (65 liters for 25 youngs), I change  a third part of the water every month with 100 % of reverse osmosis  water (conductivity < 30 µS) to maintain the conductivity around 120  µS.


Citazione di: MarZissimo;103141Thanks again for sharing your experience with us and congrats for your awesome photos :)
It's my pleasure.